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vrolok- 08-03-2006
Name: Sunray

Breed: Earth Pony

Gender: Male

Age: 18

History:

Sunray is the twin brothr of Vrolok. Born just 20 minutes before her, he alwayssaw himself as superior to her, protecting her from others, but always bossing her around. At their 14th birthday party in a meadow, Sunray noticed Vrolok had dissappeared. He got mad at her for wandering off, so he got all their cousins together to find her. Sunray heard Vrolok scream, and thinking the worst, he ran toward her voice. WHat he saw horrified him. She had blood dripping from her muzzle, and her eyes were glowing. When she opened her mouth to say something, there were fangs. Sunray reacted without thinking. He told Vrolok to leave and not return. He felt more powerful than he had ever before, however. He felt stronger, both mentally and physically. After Vrolok left, he discovered the cause. Vrolok's bloodthirst gave him powers. They never lasted long, only a few days out of the month, but he made the best use of them. He has tried to use his powers to find Vrolok, to keep her under his control, but has not been able to find her so far. When he does find her, however, he will not let her out of his sight.

Personality:

Sunray is bossy, and his newfound poers fit him perfectly. He feels that if he can find his younger sister, and control her bloodthirst, he can gain more power. What he intends to do with it he has never shared with anyone. He has his cousins scared of him, and they will do anything he asks them to.

powers: Note that all powers only work when Vrolok has eaten meat and drank blood. the effects only last for about 4 days afterwards, and none of his powers are very strong.

Strength: He has the strength of 3 ponies. This does not mean that he automatically knows how to fight, he doesn't. He can hold his own, but he was raised peacfully, and he bullies, not actually fights. He uses the strength to impress others.

Description: He's a deep red pony with black mane and tail. his symbol is a black feather

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c142/vro.../sunraycopy.jpg

Vrolok and Sunray are the children of the G1 rainbow pegasus Skydancer and Quarterback




well, here is Vrolok's brother. heh, i hope he's ok. I think he's going to be interesting to play.

Sider- 08-05-2006
Hey ya..

So... this is Vrolok's bro huh?

Neat.

*peeks at pic* heh heh, so sweet and innocent considering what he's really like. mlpeod/wink.gif

I like the overall sound of this one, though he's pretty complex and the mods will need to discuss it first. I personally think the amount of limitations he has on using his powers balance him out well, but there could be an issue with something I've missed.

What you can do, while you're waiting, is deploy Vrolok somewhere and start playing her. We need you to play her for a bit before this one gets deployed anyhow..

Well.. we'll be getting back to you soon enough, though if we haven't said anything in a week... give this topic the old "bump" and we'll get on the ball.


vrolok- 08-05-2006
ok, np. i just wanted to flesh him out while he was fresh on my mind, so to speak mlpeod/smilie.gif there's no hurry to play him, vrolok will be my main charrie for a while anyway mlpeod/smilie.gif glad you like m concept. as i don't know what the durations for the powers are here, as in how long his suggestion will last or whatever, consider his powers at half the normal "full" power. he's not powerful at all, just a bully. if vrolok were to eat flesh and drink blood more often, the powers would last longer, but i won't do that, lol

ForeignVisitor- 08-06-2006
(Waves)

Hey, Vrolok! A quick bump here to tell you that I've seen this too and we're gonna discuss it a bit, kay? We haven't forgotten it. mlpeod/wink.gif In the meantime, though, I'd like to ask you to ellaborate a little bit on his mind control power, since any form of mind control tends to be inherently the "most powerful of powers", at least in my opinion mlpeod/happy.gif You say it's a suggestion, and a basic power. What exactly do you mean with suggestion? Just an idea that would "appear" in a pony's mind, and it would be completely up to the owner of that char to decide whether to follow said idea or not? Or more like the kind of idea that keeps coming back and back and back and it's unbearable and won't let you sleep, won't let you eat, won't let you have an instant of peace, so one way or another, the affected char is bound to follow that suggestion? Or something stronger than this? Please, a little more ellaboration on this power would be really great to help us make up our minds ^___^ Thanks a lot!

vrolok- 08-06-2006
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basic mind control: he can plant a suggestion in someone's mind. the effects of this is temporary, and may not even work.



hmm... well, the best way i can explain is by quoting the third edition whitewolf book, vampire: the masquerade, which is where i got my idea for the suggestions from.

" command: the vampire [in my case, pony, lol] locks eyes with the subject and speaks a one word command which must be obeyed instantly. the order must be clear and straight forward - run, cough, fall, yawn, jump, laugh, sneeze, stop, belch, follow. if the command is at all confusing or ambiguous, the subject may respond slowly or perform the task poorly. the subject cannot be ordered to do something directly harmful to herself, so a command like 'die' is ineffective.

the command may be included in a sentence, thereby concealing the power's use from others. the effort of subtlety still requires the kindred to make eye contact at the proper moment and stress the key word slightly. an alert bystander - or even the victim - may notice the emphasis; still, unless she's conversant with supernatural powers, the individual is likely to attribute the utterance and the subsequence action as bizarre coincidence."


if you want the more technicle game mechanics, i can include them too, but in a free form, everything is open to interpretaion. just so you would know, what sunray said to vrolok that day was:

"vrolok, i don't know what you are doing, but if this is going to continue, perhaps you might want to leave before you attack any of us!"


she took the suggestion to leave, and ran away. the effect of leaving, or running, only lasted long enough for her to get out of eyesight of him, but she is still scared of him.


i hope this clears anything up. mlpeod/smilie.gif

vrolok- 08-09-2006
i had just remembered this, from a vampire rp i had played in before. it gives another example of the way the suggestion works, really. we had been in a scene, and one vampire wanted another to put on his hat. they had a lengthy conversation, and suddenly one vampire said, "why don't you put on your hat?" the other was confused, and said, "no, i don't think so." the play continued for a while, with every now and then the one was telling the other to wear the hat. (it was a signal for the enemies to attack) finally, the victim of the discipline said, "i don't know why you are so adamant about me wearing this thing, but fine!" he put on the hat, and didn't live much longer. it was more than a one word suggestion, of course, but it was something like the second or third level of the discipline. it's just an example of play, and it took a lot to get the attack set up, lol, but maybe that clarifies things? i hope mlpeod/smilie.gif

vrolok- 08-15-2006
bump

ForeignVisitor- 08-15-2006
Finally here! So sorry that we've kept you waiting, Vrolok, but we were discussing about Sunray with the other mods. His powers have given us...quite a lot to think about.

So, first things first! The overall concept of Sunray is very nice and interesting, and I can see how it works perfectly well with Vrolok's history. Congrats on that, since I love well thought background histories mlpeod/wink.gif . His colours, appearance, age and history are just fine. Please, I'll just ask you to include his age (18, right?) in his profile too, up there (points out ^^). Even though you say he's Vrolok's twin, remember they're two different chars and each one must have the complete information in the profile.

Unfortunately, there's a problem with his powers. We've exchanged opinions about this, and we've come to the conclusion that he has too many. While it's true that you say his powers only last four days after Vrolok's eaten meat and blood, it's plenty of time given how the game works. We move and rp slowly, and if you check other char's profiles, you'll see that we often have to limit our chars' powers to a matter of minutes or a couple of hours to the most, depending on what powers they have and how strong they are. In short, even though his powers only last four days in game time, given the nature of EoD this is a long enough period of time for a lot of rping and interaction.

Sunray has three powers: mind control, the strength of three ponies and flying. However, characters in the game can have:

Earth ponies: 1 unique/magical ability
Unicorns: Winking + 1 unique/magical ability
Pegasi: Flight + 1 unique/magical ability

There are a few exceptions. Old veteran members can be granted ATEs, for example, which are inherently very powerful, or be allowed to play some very few unique chars which can also be a little more powerful. But generally speaking, the mods talk a lot when this happens and analyze very carefully the implications of said char's powers, evaluate the background of said member and make a decision about it. Mostly we all - mods included - have to abide by the rule that you see above regarding the number of magical powers for our chars. It's the normal standard for EoD, anything above this is considered very powerful.

As a side note, one thing you could do is making Sunray a pegasus. That way, he could be able to fly without "spending one power", so to say. Earth ponies don't naturally fly, so for other ponies to see one flying around would be shocking and impressive, and very unusual. Which is why Sunray's flying would be consider his magical power. This is just a suggestion, you don't really have to take it, kay? But if I were you, I'd make him a peg if I really wanted him to fly, and that would leave me one more power for him. mlpeod/happy.gif

Now, we've been talking about the "suggestions" power. We loved the way you described it, that seems very interesting (specially the whole example of the vampire making the other put on the hat, hee ^^ ). But, as much as I find the power and its description very interesting, I'm terribly, terribly sorry to say that it's too strong a power and it can't be granted. You see, any form of mind control (even if it's something like these "suggestions") or clarividence is generally considered very, very strong, and we'd really prefer it if there aren't more than two or three chars in the game with such powers. They are very tricky and would tend to make things messy if we have lots of chars running around with such powers. There are only three chars in the mainland with mind controlling powers: Silver Dream (well, she's the Queen and the central char of the game mlpeod/tongue.gif ), her son Prince Satan (who inherited it from her mother) and Malikye, an evil ATE who is very powerful because he's lived for thousands of years and has come to the peak of his magical powers (think of him as one of the baddiest baddies in the game). There are a couple of chars here and there with some sort of mind-influence or telepathy, but, again, mind control is too powerful to be granted. Even if it's something like these suggestions and you say they don't always work, it's in itself too strong. You see, even if I decided to grant you this power as long as you let each member decide whether to have his or her char be overwhelmed by Sunray's power, most members would say that their chars are too strong willed and wouldn't comply, I assure you.

I hope you're not too disappointed. I can see how interesting this suggestion power is in Vrolok's and Sunray's personal history, but I think their histories still work perfectly fine without Sunray having it. You can always say that he was very commanding and bullying with her, and the mere fact that Sunray is terrified by him would me more than enough reason for her to leave and try to put as much distance from him as possible mlpeod/cool.gif . As you progress in the game and we see more and more of your rping, we could talk again. But for now, please understand that this is too much. It'd be very unfair to all the other members if this were allowed.

So, in short:

- Age, apperance and history are fine. Just remember to add the age to his profile, please.
- The mind control power is too strong.
- He can still have one magical power (you can add a skill too. A skill is like...non magical, but something he's very good at because of practice and training, like him being able to run very fast or be a great jumper, within what's ponyly possible ^^).

Please, edit his profile and I'll give it another look. As soon as the problems are worked out, I'll stamp my approval mlpeod/wink.gif . See you soon!




vrolok- 08-15-2006
hey, no problem. i understand completely about the limits!! i wasn't going to ply him any time soon, i just wanted to get him fleshed out. lol, i don't even have to play him myself, he can be adopted out if you think that would be best. i'm having a lot of fun playing vrolok. i just wanted to flesh him out a bit. hee hee, it would be interesting to have another player with him searching out vrolok instead of going against myself.... but, whatever you guys decide mlpeod/smilie.gif you're the GMs. mlpeod/teeth.gif

ForeignVisitor- 08-16-2006
Okay. With the changes, I give you my approval ^__^ .

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You still need one more approval mlpeod/wink.gif Oh! And nah, there's no need to give him out for adoption. He's yours! Unless you really want someone to have him, whatever you like ^^.

vrolok- 08-16-2006
lol, ok. it will likely be while before i play him though. i want to get used to the site with vrolok first.

Sider- 08-16-2006
Things seem to be going quite well with Vrolok, You've got a neat style of RPing.

Of course there's no hurry in deploying Sunray either, you're right (I have a character that has been approved for a year.. almost and has yet to be deployed.)

I'm going to give you the go ahead for this guy, bring him in when you're comfortable.

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vrolok- 08-16-2006
kk, thanks mlpeod/smilie.gif lol, glad to know there is no hurry for sunray!!

vrolok- 07-23-2007
hmm... any suggestions as to where a good place for this guy could be?

Dragonblossom- 07-25-2007
Hmmm, that really is up to you. Do you have something in mind you'd like him to do a goal for him? (Beyond finding his sister?) I'd suggest looking at all the active RPs and chose from them. That way you know you'll be RPing somewhere where you'll get replies and action. mlpeod/wink.gif

Err...Whispering Wood, Shadow Forest, Rainbow Valley all have active RPs.

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