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katiehorses75- 07-02-2007
I assumed it was okay because it had the heart beside it... xD;

Sorry guys!
.. But yay anyways! x3 When you do remember the tweaks, just tell me, DB! =3

ForeignVisitor- 07-11-2007
Hi, Katie! Look, I'm so sorry that it's taken us mods so long to work this out. The mods, to be honest, have been dealing with a lot lately (like, in real life) and we've been slow to come to agreements. This species is approved and there were just a couple of things we still wanted to work in.

One thing the mods did agree on some time ago, after exchanging our views, was that the pillar of the ASPs must be Molly, no new pillars for them. Believe me, we talked about it and decided it's for the best that the ASPs are ponies of darkness too. And thus, their civilization suffered the Great Death too. I'm saying it now coz I just went over this whole document and the comments we made, and I realized that we forgot to point this out. Apologies for that, but we did come to the conclusion that it would be the best. So please, just keep in mind that the ASPs are just like the ponies of darkness in the mainland: they're pillared by Molly, and have two generations of Ponies of darkness currently alive. No ASP right now can be older than Justice (27 years old). Their base color (for the great majority of them) can't be light colored. Perhaps a dark shade of gray? I don't think this is really a big deal with the way they've organized their culture, but just remember the Great Death was a significative fact in Ponyland and the ASPs must have experienced it too.

So when it comes to Elders, I can give you a suggestion (note: this is just a suggestion, you don't necessarily have to keep it that way, but you might like the idea mlpeod/wink.gif ) Not all ponies were the same age, and all throughout the mainland, in different places and areas, when the Great Death came, some of the oldest ponies (9 years old ones) tried to take care of the younger ones. Different things happened in different places. In some areas, the older ones just didn't care about the babies and merely abandoned them, since they were already having a hard time trying to survive themselves. In other areas, some sorts of "older siblings" organized shelters to care for the most defenseless ones. Given the hierarchical organization of the ASPs (and the fact that they were well organized anyway, age being an important factor to determine who it is that rules), I would think that they went for the second approach: the oldest living ASP was declared the "Elder", and the other older ones became tribe leaders. So currently they still have their age based organization, with an Elder and tribe leaders, only they're not as old as they used to be before GD ^^ .

I hope it sounds like a good solution. If you have any other ideas, please feel absolutely free to discuss them here, we'll try to help you as best we can!

katiehorses75- 07-12-2007
It does sound like a good idea; but I'm afraid I'll have to mess around with the history more. :x I can do that, but might I put foreward a suggestion first?

The Great Death was caused when Megan died. But what if the ASPs were never hosted by Megan? Say they were hosted by Molly originally, too, so TGD never happened?

Dragonblossom- 07-12-2007
The idea of them being original to Molly is a good idea. I'll nudge the MODs to see what they think. Here's what I was going to say:

description edits:

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They don't have a wide range of colors; usually born with blacks, greys, and whites. Dark blues, greens, and purples are also seen.


I would take out 'white' since this is a restricted color. The mention of a RARE white ASP is enough. We don't want future members to be confused.

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Solid Color (no stripes); White: Babies born without any stripes, and with a base color of white are believed to be prophets. It is believed that a greater being smiles upon them, and that they will grow up to be both wise and powerful. Babies born this way are publicly announced and blessed by the Tribe Elder, then passed around the Tribes to be admired, then returned to the proud parents; whom are showered with gifts and praise.

Solid Color White; Blue Eyes: Babies with a solid color of white with blue eyes are considered to be holy. Regardless of Tribe, a baby born this way is instantly given to the Tribe Elder to raise. If the baby is a male, the Tribe Elder raises him as his next sucessor. If the baby is female, the Tribe Elder raises her to be his mate. THIS IS INCREDIBLY RARE. Blue eyes are unheard of among the ASPs, period. There is only one recorded case of a baby being born with blue eyes, that baby became the third Tribal Elder; and was coincidentally white. He proclaimed his colorization to be incredibly holy, and any babies born henceforth should also be treated as such.


Since you did mention you wanted to keep this rare, then there should be one, and only one, rare white type. Seeing as "blue eyes" and "white body" are described separately, why not just make a note of this doubly rare ASP as part of the history section, and say that he's been the only one? We are trying to keep white rare, right? mlpeod/smilie-new.gif

I also remember there being some sort of description that the 'base color' of an ASP was white. If so, could we have that changed to grey?

And that's it. FV already pointed out that ASPs must be Pillared to Molly. Feel free to ask questions.

katiehorses75- 07-12-2007
Mmhm, okay. How about a light grey?
White can be kept strictly on a rare basis. *goes to change*

Dragonblossom- 07-13-2007
As long as it is not lighter than #1 on the grey/black color list here: Color List sure. mlpeod/teeth.gif

Sorry for us taking so long to get these last edits to you. mlpeod/blush.gif

katiehorses75- 07-14-2007
Alright; and it's no problem!
Edits all done and good. ANthing else need tweaking?

Dragonblossom- 07-14-2007
Not that I know of... other than the MODs say that the ASPs must follow the normal poniy of darkness rules, that being that they are normal creations of Molly, and therefore the adults would have died along with the other ponies of light.

Since you seem to have fixed that (with the whole brother and uncle history) I think you're fine. There shouldn't be any other issues.

Sorry for the belated finalization!

katiehorses75- 07-15-2007
Woohoo!

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